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I agree. My friends enjoy Pathfinder and I don’t like the min-maxxing and the endless reference to rulebooks. First edition WFRP were the best RPG times for me, and it fitted perfectly with my concept of fantasy: gritty, grimy, Monty Python/Jabbywocky, and very English/European. I’ve never clicked with the superheroes-in-plate-mail idea of fantasy.