April 4, 2016 at 7:40 am #11958
How many people are looking forward to this game??
I already ordered mine from CSI in the States…so i should be receiving it mid next week.
I did not invest in Star Wars X-Wing, Imperial Assault or Armada (Although I heard all 3 of them are very good games, I did not want to fall into the “Money Sink” trap).
Rebellion might just be the Star Wars game i have been looking for all along!!
(Really psyched about getting it)!!!April 4, 2016 at 8:23 am #11959
Have you seen the Shut Up and Sit Down review? They really liked aspects of it, but didn’t like the combat system and thought it didn’t deliver on the promise of creating stories in the SW universe.
I might try for a bit of caution (for a change) and wait for further reviews. It’s very pricey here (starting to see games more commonly creeping into NZD$100-$200 bracket, which is annoying)April 4, 2016 at 9:55 am #11960
Yes I did see that SU&SD review. I think overall they did like it though and recommended it to SW fans.
Others gave it glowing reviews….basically saying it is a “must buy”. Check out the other reviews on BGG.
That does stink with the high price tag you would have to pay where u are located.
I do not want you to get you upset and tell you what i paid for it in comparison.
Also, the games mini’s are supposedly very good quality (and you get over 150 of them including 3 death stars for some reason).April 4, 2016 at 7:57 pm #11968
I am looking forward to it, though I am now pretty sure that it won’t be quite up there with War of the Rings in quality – with which it competes for playtime for me. It seems to be missing two essential components:
1. Multiple victory conditions for each side.
2. Dual-purpose cards (which makes for tough decisions in WotR).
The price is nasty though – I may have to wait for the German edition, which is a good €30 cheaper in the pre-orders here.April 5, 2016 at 5:48 am #11972
One of my gaming friends bought it so I don’t have to. 🙂April 6, 2016 at 7:35 pm #11981
You lucky guy! My friends only buy the small, quick to play stuff. Actually that’s one friend, the others don’t buy anything at all. 😀April 7, 2016 at 3:41 pm #11983
Thanks to its hefty price tag, I’m adopting UH’s “wait and watch the gameplay/reviews first”.
That, plus I’ve a LOT of games coming my way this year.
(But its STAR WARS… !!!)April 7, 2016 at 11:50 pm #11984
Actually I now found a decently cheaper pre-order, and caved in. Should be with me around the start of May. I’m looking forward to it.April 12, 2016 at 7:52 am #11995
I went ahead and bought it. I was hoping to get the others in my group to (finally) buy something because they were all excited about it. But they didn’t. Or at least they didn’t until they found out I bought it. Then three of them bought it. Bastards.
I got it on release day for $75 US (for price references). Got a couple of partial plays in (it’s a long game) and a full game in last night (using the intro setup).
Quick Summary – Love it.
I’m an admitted Star Wars Junkie with varying levels of investment in X-Wing (high), Armada (low), Imperial Assault (medium), Star Wars Risk, the old WoTC minis game and probably other stuff. So it was expected I’d pick this up at some point.
It feels like Star Wars. At least it did to us. Asymmetrical game play where the Empire is looking for the rebel base, they have tons of resources, they send out probe droids to determine the base location, they focus on building super weapons, they can turn people to the dark side, freeze them in carbonite and their missions are slanted towards getting more resources, capturing rebel leaders, interrogating said leaders. They can subjugate planets or gain their loyalty. Either way they can collect resources from them. The Rebels need to gather support for their mission and hold out until the timer token meets the reputation token on the track. They can’t subjugate systems and have to gain planet loyalty through negotiation and influence missions. They are more resource constrained but do have missions where they can negotiate more units into the build queue. They get objectives which help them move the reputation tracker. They can get droids and the millennium falcon to help them in their quest.
Regarding combat – it works. We had no issues with it other than double checking how the cards work. I don’t think they did a good job explaining it in the rulebook but that might just be me. Now that I’ve figured it out I get how it’s handled in the rulebook but I found it awkward at first read.
Here are the basics – you have tactics cards based on theater (space, ground). You will/can have a leader involved in the combat that has tactics values for each theater. This allows you to draw tactics cards for their respective values.
The current player goes first and has a slight advantage. Each combat round will take place in each theater then you have the option to retreat. If you don’t/can’t retreat you continue combat in each theater. This is important because some tactics cards will play off units in theater. An example is bombardment (a ground tactic) which lets you do damage from a ship in the space theater.
So you figure out how many dice you roll based off your reference sheet. Two colors of dice (black, red). Small units (TIE fighters, troopers, X-Wings, etc) roll black and have black health values. Heavy units (Capital ships, Walkers, Y-Wings, etc) roll red and usually have red health values (although the smaller heavy units sometimes have black health values). So figure out how many dice you can have (max 5 of each color) and roll them. Pretty straightforward.
Dice have four possible results – hit, critical hit, lightsabers, blank. Hits are used to do damage to the related color health value. Critical hits can do one damage to either color. Lightsabers are used to play many of the tactics cards or can be discarded to draw tactics cards.
Then you go to the tactics cards phase. You can only play the ones specific to the theater you’re fighting in. Some do damage, some do rerolls, some are used to draw cards, some block damage and will be used on a later step, you get the idea.
Then you assign damage. Very straightforward.
Then, if the defender has tactics cards that allow it, you block damage. This is the slight advantage for the attacker because the defender only has his/her initial card draw to work with at this point.
Then figure out what’s destroyed. They aren’t returned to supply yet because the defender still gets to retaliate with them.
And then the defender goes.
It did feel awkward the first couple of combats but it became comfortable after a few run throughs. Although maybe my description confused people and they’d prefer the rulebook. Oh well, I’m typing this at work. 🙂
The same dice are also used to determine mission success – hits and crit hits count as one success; lightsabers count as two successes. The number of dice is determined by leaders at the mission location.
Mini quality is good board game quality but small. And you get multiple Death Stars. So it’s got that goin’ for it. Which is nice.
There were some areas besides combat that were confusing for us. Activating leaders is the only way to move units. Our initial impression was using a leader to attempt a mission also allowed you to move units. That’s not the case. We got it sorted out though.
But despite some of the confusing parts, we got the Star Wars vibe. The empire plays a deduction game of searching the rebel base, conquering planets and moving massive amounts of metal throughout the galaxy. The rebels are running around with minimal resources, using negotiation, sabotage, guerilla tactics and spies to undermine the empire. Once you get the groove of the game it flows smoothly and easily.
Really fun game that will be seeing a lot of table time in our group.April 12, 2016 at 8:27 am #11999
Thanks for that overview ozmo – sounds pretty good after all. I’m working on a summary as we speak.
Is it a bit anticlimactic for the Rebellion to win just by having two counters meet on a track?April 13, 2016 at 3:41 am #12028
I don’t know, the Rebellion hasn’t won yet! 🙂
It’s not my ideal winning scenario but as you’re playing it you get that feel of trying to undermine the empire. I think some of that has to do with the theme of the cards you use – sabotaging planets, moving the marker due to morale loss because you blew up a star destroyer, guerilla style strike attacks, things like that. The game itself keeps things pretty tense. When the markers meet I’m assuming there will be relief because you’ll have survived the empire’s onslaught.
My friend and I are playing blind (haven’t read all of the cards yet) because we like to be surprised. We figure we enjoy it so we’ll have enough time to develop & refine strategies. I’ve only played the Rebels once and I didn’t manage their resources well so, once the base was discovered, I wasn’t in a good spot to protect it. The timing track also plays a big part in strategy because, as the timer marker advances, the recruiting leaders and building units markers are pre-determined. So you can’t recruit/build every turn. We don’t have the timing down for that yet.
There are really a lot of interactions that need managed through the game.April 13, 2016 at 7:16 pm #12044
The temptation was too much…. I had to buy!
It arrived this morning. Huge box with a lot of air inside,but once I add some foam core to store the plastic safely it will fill up.
I won’t be adding it to my painting list. Too many little fiddly things.
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